Post details: Camp Crowder

07/02/06

Permalink 12:49:56 am, Categories: Urban Exploration, 356 words   English (US)

Camp Crowder

I recently had the pleasure of spending a few days at the, dare I say, legendary National Guard installation known fondly as Camp Crowder. It is located less than two miles from the major metropolis of Neosho Missouri, near Joplin. As you may be able to tell from my tone, I wasn't too enthused about my time there, but I did have a chance one evening to drive around the back areas of the camp, where I ran across an old abandoned section. What the different buildings once were, I can't say. Military installations are always a mix of new, old, and REALLY old and somewhat forgotten buildings. Sometimes, you even end up living in the forgotten buildings!!! Camp Crowder saw its heyday around the time of WWII, when it was home to the US Army Signal Corps, and was exponentially larger than the small Reserve training area it is today. Along with Camp Clark to the north, it was one of the places that Japaneese Americans were sent and esentially imprisioned by an unreasonably frightened nation after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Isn't history fun, kids?!

The main building I found appeared to be some kind of garage or vehicle maintenance shop, judging by the large "garage" type doors. Further down the old abandoned road there were some more buildings, including one that housed four or five large metal tanks. Were these fuel tanks at one time, or perhaps something more sinister.....like toxic mutant waste?!

Although it's still in use, one of the coolest parts of Camp Crowder's hidden areas is a large training site used to teach military police how to run a prisoner of war camp. It's basically a mock field prison, complete with guard towers and razor wire. I was only visiting, but was stripped and de-loused nonetheless. So bittersweet.

So many cool hidden sites to see.....that's why all of you should run out and join the National Guard. And, if by any chance, any one of you is actually taking me seriously at this point, let me know. I totally get money if I get someone else to enlist!

Comments:

Comment from: gimpface [Visitor]
Whoa... I didn't know about the awesome prison out there! The "American Concentration Camp" consipracy dorks online will go wild when they hear about it (and they almost certainly will) However, you missed some totally badass stuff I found out in the woods back in my ROTC days...
Permalink 07/02/06 @ 01:54
Comment from: JOHN L COSTA [Visitor]

I TOOK MY BASIC TRAINING FEB '46
TO MAY '45.
Permalink 01/27/07 @ 02:12
Comment from: tiAn [Visitor]
Further back into the woods are the remnants of the original JPL division of NACA (pre-NASA).

There are a bunch of concrete pads used for testing the output of prototype rocket engines and a huge underground fuel laboratory complex that was already picked over for scrap copper and stainless when I was last there 10+ years ago. There are also ladders going down into some of these chambers that were cut off about 60 feet down that a halogen flashlight couldn't illuminate the bottom of.

I'd love to go back before these are disappeared forever, just don't get to that part of the world very often anymore.

I am disappointed I didn't think to take a camera, I was there for other purposes at the time.

Permalink 04/09/07 @ 13:55
Comment from: Robinson [Visitor]
Hi I dont know if you will read this or not since you wrote it so long ago. Thanks for posting the pictures, my fiance is there right now he is an mp in the national gaurd and he ahd mentioned the prisoner of war thing. It was really interesting to read what you had to think of the place. My guy has the same love for the place as you do.
Permalink 06/11/07 @ 01:12
Comment from: squadcar [Visitor]
I went to high school in Neosho, and my buddies and I spent many hours exploring the the abandoned Air Force engine test area (this was roughly 25 years ago). Those "concrete pads" (there are 2) are stands where rocket engines were tested. They are maybe 30-40 feet high, and built-in to the side of hills. At the base of each stand was a room with a big control panel (all the electronics were removed long ago, leaving just the metal shell). Coolest of all were the two TUNNELS which connected the test stands to a main building. We used to call the test stands "launch pads" but we later learned that they didn't actually launch rockets there, just tested them.
Permalink 07/10/07 @ 16:41
Comment from: P King [Visitor]
My uncle was stationed at Camp Crowder before going overseas with the signal corps during WWII. I remember going to see him but could never really figure out just where this was. Thank you for the location and the other information.
Permalink 07/31/07 @ 04:29
Comment from: Les [Visitor]
My dad went to Radio Operators School there, during WWII, I think in 1943... I found a site with some pictures and a map..

http://users.mo-net.com/racko/crowder.html

If anyone is interested..
Permalink 08/18/07 @ 00:20
Comment from: joe McCarron [Visitor]
I have found little reference to the combat engineers who trained at Camp Crowder beginning in Aug 1942.We were aware we were at a signal corps camp especially when we pulled guard duty with rifles and full field packs while the signal corps guards were unencumbered, no field packs, no rifles, etc. I was with Co.D, 2nd Batt, 40th Engineers Combat Regt. (all my old army buddies are long gone)
Permalink 10/24/07 @ 16:06
Comment from: Scout [Visitor]
Another cool exploration. Thanks again. We used this site for training purposes when I was with the 4th ROTC Rgn. back in the 80's. We were also at Fort Clark. I shot Expert there one day and still have the medal, outshooting all the officers and enlisted both-probably around 100 soldiers.

I believe Clark is the home to the only Special Forces unit in the National Guard.

Thanks again. Oh, and I've camped out overnight at Crowder, which is supposedly hainted. I saw no evidence of it, although it is danged creepy.
Permalink 10/28/07 @ 10:25
Comment from: Mel [Visitor]
I was in the National Guard for 9 years and worked at Crowder for several months full time and as creepy as it is, I don't think it's haunted. I spent many nights alone in a guard shack and it was quiet except for all the deer running around.

Permalink 10/29/07 @ 16:49
Comment from: Ronald Henry [Visitor] · http://information on Ezra Eugene Fish (father)
Ezra Eugene Fish was stationed at
Camp Crowder in 1942.I would like
to see if anyone has any information
about him. Do to medical history,
if he is still living. I am 64 and
would love to know some of these things.Any information would be
appreciated.
Thank you
Ronald Henry
Permalink 11/07/07 @ 13:24
Comment from: Chuck [Visitor]
I found this website researching a photo of my Fathers CCC carpenter crew building the camp in Dec 1941.
Permalink 12/21/07 @ 00:14
Comment from: mark [Visitor]
My mother worked at the rocketdyne plant and had to observe the engine testing.I've saw the test stands when I was about 6 yr.old. My Father's last posting in the army was at camp crowder( I did not know of the POW camp)in the early 60's to help with the final closing of the camp. The last time I was back in Neosho was about 2 years ago. My daughter and walked back in the woods to see if we could find what remains of the test stands,I don't thing we walked far enough. Does anyone have pictures of what remains of the test stands.
Permalink 01/21/08 @ 00:08
Comment from: Gerd [Visitor] · http://www.cigland.com
Very nice site!
Permalink 01/29/08 @ 09:05
Comment from: AUBE alain [Visitor] · http://pepere2@wanadoo.fr
Hi ! my name is AUBE and I'm retired Maj from the FAF.I'm looking for some one who could help me to find the name and other informations about a sergeant from the US SIGNAL CORPS assigned in Robinson (east of France)during the WW2.
I have differents pictures from him,Please can somùe body help me, this is for a good human cause
thanks (sorry for my english)
Permalink 04/15/08 @ 14:19

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